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=EVO VIDEO 07: OPEN CHAT FEB 17 AT 4PM SAN FRANCISCO TIME. THANKS SERGIO AND BERNARDO! GREAT TALKING WITH YOU! RYAN 2007.02.17 15:56:39=

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Room: TI_Reception

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DavidWe: Hi, Ryan. Welcome

RyanDe: Hello David and Bjb

BJB2 waves hi to Ryan

DavidWe: Anything we can help you with, Ryan?

BJB2: Ryan is leading the EVO discussion, David

DavidWe smiles

RyanDe: might have a chat today

RyanDe. o O ( I wonder if anyone will show up )

BJB2: so anyone who logs in and is an ESL/EFL teacher needs to be sent to Ryan's office

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DavidWe waves to erin

RyanDe: Hi Erin

DavidWe: Hi, Erin. Welcome

BJB2: usually people will log in earlier if they're attending your sessions, Ryan.

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RyanDe: We're suppsed to meet at 4

RyanDe: in a couple minutes..

BJB2 nods.

RyanDe: Where does the tour start from bjb?

DavidWe: Where in the world are you, Ryan?

BJB2: I can announce for you or you can join the tour

RyanDe: San Francisco

BJB2: my tour starts in the ASO

DavidWe used to live in Oakland/Berkeley 20 years ago

RyanDe: Where is the ASO

DavidWe: next door

RyanDe: where are you now David?

DavidWe: Passageway from Reception

DavidWe: I'm at my sister's house, now, in Bucks County, PA - north of Philadelphia

SergioMa joined the room.

RyanDe: Hi Sergio!

DavidWe: Friend of mine is a chef in Oakland - lives in Lafayette

DavidWe waves to Sergio

SergioMa: Hi Ryan and All!

BjB: | **ANNOUNCEMENT: Tips and Tricks is starting in the After School Online Room. Tips are tours of the main features of Tapped In. To participate type /join BJB** |

RyanDe: how are things this morning in Japan?

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BJB2: Hi, Ashley

SergioMa: Cloudy weather. Otherwise fine.

DavidWe waves to Ashley

DavidWe: Hi, Ashley. Welcome

RyanDe: Hi Ashly, are you here for the evo chat?

BJB2: Ashley, above this chat window on the right is Featured Passageways

DavidWe guesses probably not

BJB2: click on After School Online

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DavidWe: She did

RyanDe: I don't know if Sue or Geoff or others will join the chat today, Sergio

RyanDe: guess we'll just hang out for awhile and see ..

DavidWe: Where in SF do you live, Ryan?

SergioMa: That's a pity. Well, we will chat anyway, won't we?

RyanDe: in japantown, near Fillmore

RyanDe: Yes, sergio :)

DavidWe smiles

RyanDe: Sergio, bjb taught me this cool TI trick

DavidWe: My cousin lives in Marin, now, but had an amazing place about Haight-Ashbury, looking north towards the Golden Gate Bridge

SergioMa: Yeas

RyanDe: do you know how to do thought bubbles?

SergioMa: No

RyanDe: type /th and then a thought

DavidWe. o O ( deep thoughts )

SergioMa. o O ( no noe else is going to show up this morning )

RyanDe: I wish I had an amazing place near there, Dave. You cousin is in a fun area

RyanDe. o O ( I don't know )

RyanDe: Romeo from Morroco was here earlier

DavidWe: He now lives in a house in Mill Valley - his wife is a neurobiologist at UCSF

RyanDe: but because of the schedule change, he could come back later

DavidWe: He's a writer

SergioMa: I see

RyanDe: David, are you a TI moderator like bjb?

DavidWe: I'm also one of the HelpDesk volunteers, Ryan

DavidWe: I lead a math education discussion

RyanDe: I understand bjb is going to lead a tour..

DavidWe: I met Bj in (1998?) in the Hershey Hotel in Hershey, PA

RyanDe: could you please send people to my office if they show up?

DavidWe: She helped me do a presentation about Tapped In

DavidWe: Yes, Ryan. I'll be happy to send them to your office

RyanDe: You Penn people are very friendly and helpful :)

SergioMa: Ditto

RyanDe: Sergio, lets go to my office

SergioMa: Yes

RyanDe: Thanks David and bjb

SergioMa: Thanks from me too!

DavidWe smiles

DavidWe: You're welcome

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SergioMa: Pretty thin on the gound

RyanDe: I wish you could have seen the quiz app

SergioMa: I tried again, but no joy

SergioMa: I can now see your iFrame message

SergioMa: but it still does not work

RyanDe: I really don't know why

RyanDe: but will figure it out :)

RyanDe: Tell me about your site

SergioMa: That's the trouble with computers

RyanDe: chotto matte

SergioMa: I can show you the site

SergioMa: Ok, I will wait

RyanDe: I'm back.

RyanDe: What is the link?

SergioMa: http://www.deepmoat.com/moodle/

SergioMa: It is still rough

RyanDe. o O ( I'm going to click on this, but last time I tried a link I got disconnected from TI. If it happens again I'll be right back )

SergioMa: Fine

RyanDe: it's opening in safari

RyanDe: slowly

RyanDe: got it

RyanDe: Welcome to the website of the International Student Slideshow Exchange Project!

RyanDe: This site aims to help ESL/EFL teachers from different countries to exchange video slideshows created by their students.

RyanDe: Teachers who join the project can use the resources on the site to plan, discuss, and coordinate ESL/EFL activities related to the slideshows.

RyanDe: Slideshows can be created with a digital camera, a computer, and a microphone. No other equipment is necessary. However, by supplementing the spoken or written word with images, they can greatly enhance the quality of communication across cultures.

SergioMa: Yes

RyanDe just copied and pasted the text

SergioMa: It worked

SergioMa: There are forums inside

RyanDe: Sergio, this is great.

SergioMa: But one has to register to use them

RyanDe: Have you seen Cora's lesson plan on Week 3 or 4 page?

SergioMa: Thanks, it is still at the beginning

SergioMa: I think so, but off the top of my head

SergioMa: I do not recall exactly what it was

RyanDe: Overview:

RyanDe: This lesson shows students how to learn about other cultures through documentary films.

RyanDe copied and pasted the text

SergioMa: Oh, yes

SergioMa: That's what I would like to do

RyanDe: slide shows could be a gate way for in-class discussion and discovery of other people, places, cultures

SergioMa: I limited it to slideshows because they are easier to make

RyanDe: sharing cultures esl/efl style

RyanDe: I think that is a good idea

SergioMa: We are on the same wavelength

SergioMa: I made registration easy

SergioMa: Do you think it is ok?

RyanDe: what do you mean by 'easy'? I think it's ok

RyanDe: I've never signed up to a moodle before.

SergioMa: Well, I do not check who people are

RyanDe: got it.

SergioMa: On my college system it would be unthinkable

SergioMa: Here, you can register as the Duke of Wellington if you like

SergioMa: As long as you provide a real email address

RyanDe: but that sounds pretty normal... a "username"

RyanDe: if someone was Duke of Wellington as their user name, I guess they could have it, right?

RyanDe: But then again..

RyanDe: .. can you add a profiles page to the moodle?

SergioMa: Every use has a profile

RyanDe: You class might be very interested in seeing pictures and reading bios of students in another class in a different part of the world.

SergioMa: They can add any information they want to it

RyanDe: Sergio, that's great!

SergioMa: You can register and see

RyanDe: They could -- it sounds like -- have their on blog or vlog page on the moodle. Is that right?

SergioMa: Yes

RyanDe: Wow.

RyanDe: How would users keep in touch?

RyanDe: I mean what if your class makes and posts a new video. How would you inform other members?

SergioMa: All posts to forums are forwarded to the email address

SergioMa: with which they registered

SergioMa: I could send a message to all members

RyanDe: Can a moodle be used commercially?

RyanDe: .. could you host google ads or the like?

SergioMa: Yes, there are many examples of this

RyanDe: hmmm...

RyanDe: You must see the quiz app.

RyanDe: Is there another computer at school that you could try from?

SergioMa: Moodle has very powerful quiz functions out of the box, btw

RyanDe: very interesting

SergioMa: In addtion, one can import Hot Potatoes Quizzes

SergioMa: Which gives you a lot of flexibility

RyanDe: true

RyanDe: I like hot potatoes

SergioMa: So do I

RyanDe: but the quiz app allows any registered user to create a quiz based on any YouTube video

RyanDe: I think it is even MORE flexible

SergioMa: That's really cool, Ryan!

RyanDe: Have you seen this site: http://www.surfingenglish.com

SergioMa: No

RyanDe: I made it during my web-tech one class

SergioMa: I will check it

RyanDe: not the prettiest, and might not even work on your computer.. did it load?

SergioMa: Yes, looks fine

RyanDe: those are hot potatoes quizzes

SergioMa: Indeed.

RyanDe: I didn't like having to deal with the javascript, though, in building each quiz. So, in web tech 2, I made a php application that does the same thing via a web form.

SergioMa: I see

RyanDe: You mentioned before that we'd have to 'advertise'

SergioMa: Yes, I mean among the teachers

RyanDe: the quiz app might be a very good way to advertise the moodle.

SergioMa: How

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RyanDe: among esl teachers, the quiz app may have a chance of becoming a useful tool for creating web based quizzes for all levels.

RyanDe: Hi Bernardo

BernardoH: hello ryan

SergioMa: Hi, Bernardo

BernardoH: hello sergio

BernardoH: has this session started yet?

SergioMa: Sort of

RyanDe: the quiz app, coupled with the moodle, might bring more teacher in contact wiith the idea of class community.

RyanDe: world esl/efl class community

RyanDe: how are things in Mexico city?

BernardoH: fine

BernardoH: getting warmer

BernardoH: Ryan did you design the video quiz page?

RyanDe: yes

RyanDe: we were just talking about it

BernardoH: what did you use?

RyanDe: php

RyanDe: code

BernardoH: moodle?

SergioMa: Yes, but how would you couple them. Do you mean that you would put an advertisement on your site? I would of course do the same on mine?

RyanDe: Yes. I would ideally like to add the quiz app to eslvideo.com AND the functionality you describe via moodle.

RyanDe: Plus, resources for teachers like video production lesson plans and video production resources.

BernardoH: are u going to store the videos on a data base?

SergioMa: Sounds awesome!

RyanDe: All of the videos, currently, are hosted by YouTube

RyanDe: Remember my questions about Rated R videos?

BernardoH: no

RyanDe: One concern was that some of the language of YouTube videos might offend students and teachers.

BernardoH: of course

RyanDe: As is, YouTubes content policy is pretty strict.

BernardoH: and blip.tv

SergioMa: Yes, but if you embed the videos you want on your site, they do not need to go to you tube

RyanDe: It's much easier just to create a quiz by copying and pasting the embed tag of YouTube video in the web form and take it from there.

RyanDe: No uploading, no hosting. The video is already on the web.

BernardoH: the strategy followed by the daily english show could be useful

RyanDe: Saves time and money.

SergioMa: That work on Moodle as well

RyanDe: Sarah is interested in adding quizzes regularly. Mike Marzio too.

RyanDe: Sergio, sounds like I ought to investigate Moodle and keep talking with you about collaboration.

BernardoH: I mean openning Channels or Vlogs

RyanDe: channels is a very interesting idea.

SergioMa: Well, you could go to Moodle.org and study about Moodle over there

BernardoH: maybe openning channels by levels and topics...

SergioMa: I will be glad to share the little I know

SergioMa: But there are really capable people in the Moodle community

RyanDe: I'll have to check it out. Sounds like the way to go.

SergioMa: For the moment, can I announce my site on the EVOVIDEO board?

RyanDe: Absolutely!

SergioMa: As a way to continue our discussions after the seminar is over

SergioMa: Thanks

BernardoH: what's your site?

SergioMa: http://www.deepmoat.com/moodle/

RyanDe: Bernardo, I'll paste the text from Sergio's home page here:

SergioMa: I am just building it now, Bernardo

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SergioMa: Oh dear, the link issue

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RyanDe: Welcome to the website of the International Student Slideshow Exchange Project!

RyanDe: This site aims to help ESL/EFL teachers from different countries to exchange video slideshows created by their students.

RyanDe: Teachers who join the project can use the resources on the site to plan, discuss, and coordinate ESL/EFL activities related to the slideshows.

RyanDe: Slideshows can be created with a digital camera, a computer, and a microphone. No other equipment is necessary. However, by supplementing the spoken or written word with images, they can greatly enhance the quality of communication across cultures.

SergioMa: Bernardo, welcome back

RyanDe: We are interested in starting a community for teacher and students who are creating video projects to share their work with eachother.

RyanDe: The idea would be to learn about other cultures - in living color

BernardoH: how can I goto your site, sergio?

SergioMa: By clicking on the link I sent you

SergioMa: I will send it again

SergioMa: http://www.deepmoat.com/moodle/

RyanDe: sometimes you have to control+click, B

RyanDe: Sergio, have you seen Bernardo's moodle?

SergioMa: Yes

RyanDe: Sergio, do you speak Spanish?

SergioMa: He is an advanced moddler

BernardoH: no i'm not

RyanDe: Italian, English, Japanese..

SergioMa: No, but Italian is close to Spanish

BernardoH: I'm having problems with lessons

RyanDe: which lessons?

BernardoH: moodle lessons

SergioMa: What problems?

RyanDe: creating them?

BernardoH: it seems that once you design one, only one student at a time can use them

RyanDe: Bernardo, did you try creating a quiz with the quiz application?

BernardoH: if you have more than ten students it freezes

RyanDe: Could you link quizzes made there to your moodle?

BernardoH: yes

SergioMa: That's weird. On my college site, hundreds take the same lesson

RyanDe: might be an equipment thing..

BernardoH: it must beserver problems, then

SergioMa: The freezing depends on how you host your site

BernardoH: I rent IP

SergioMa: Lessons are database intensive

RyanDe: Guys, my son just came home and he's crying. I'll be right back.

RyanDe: Ok?

BernardoH: ok

RyanDe: maybe three minutes.

SergioMa: Of course

BernardoH: I still can't connect to your site..

SergioMa: Try typng the address in the browser

BernardoH: i'll do

SergioMa: This is a site I created to interact with other teachers

BernardoH: why deepmoat?

SergioMa: I simply happened to own that domain

SergioMa: It is the translation of my wifeA's family name

BernardoH: any thing special about the name?

SergioMa: I once hosted a site for my niece on that domain

SergioMa: It was a family thing

BernardoH: So you want to specialize on video made by students?

SergioMa: Yes

BernardoH: I saw your video, it's very good quality..

SergioMa: Thanks. It was my first video. I tought it would be nice to use student videos for intercultural communication

BernardoH: what camera do you use?

SergioMa: A simple still camera, a Nikon E5400

BernardoH: 32mm

SergioMa: It has a zoom, but at wide it would be 32mm

RyanDe: I'm back.. He's ok. Just three years old and cranky. We got him some chocolate soy milk and he's happy now.

SergioMa: Good

RyanDe: Sergio, at what point would you ask your students to add video to their projects? Or ever?

SergioMa: Please do not hesitate to leave again

RyanDe smiles

SergioMa: I will start teaching the class in April

SergioMa: So I think they should be ready by June

RyanDe: Bernardo, are you interested at all in having your students produce videos.. or are you primarily interested in creating content FOR your students to use in class?

BernardoH: I've been having problems getting the students to do the videos.

BernardoH: I work with university and adult students, not highschool students

SergioMa: Are they shy?

RyanDe: What kind of videos are you asking them to make?

RyanDe: documentaries can be fairly serious

BernardoH: they're too immersed in their subjects and very little interest in English

RyanDe: and relate lots of valuable cutltural information

RyanDe: ahhh...

RyanDe: how about the commercial project. It's "fun"

SergioMa: Slideshows would also be easy

RyanDe: what do they study? Math, history, science?

BernardoH: I work in a Research Center for Economics and Public Administration

BernardoH: they're overwhelmed with non deterministic mathematical models

SergioMa: Well, since they are so brainy

SergioMa: an easy topic should be feasible for them

SergioMa: not take too much of their time

SergioMa: especially if they work in groups

RyanDe: could perhaps have the slide show relate to them personally OR to some aspect of the public space?

BernardoH: I'm trying to design a predicate logic based course, based on a semantic perspective and moving into different gramatical points of view

SergioMa: I see.

RyanDe: What could be some uses of video in this course?

BernardoH: that's why I want to include simultaneous interpretation

RyanDe: What level are your students?

RyanDe: sounds like they might be high-intermediate to advanced..

SergioMa: That is a specialized skills generally not required of economics graduates

BernardoH: movie maker has the ability of turning up one audio and reducing another, maybe by switching from one audio to another i could get them interested

SergioMa: Simultaneous interpretation, I mean

BernardoH: right

SergioMa: It requires very intensive training to the exclusion of much else

RyanDe: I don't even know what it is ~

RyanDe: what is "simultaneous interpretation"?

BernardoH: what i haven't figured out yet is how to upload the audio switch on the vidoe projection of upoutube

SergioMa: I guess you can't

BernardoH: switching from one language to another simultaneously

SergioMa: You tube was not designed for that

SergioMa: It changes your videos to flash

BernardoH: right

RyanDe: what level are your students?

BernardoH: can you do it with flashmaker?

BernardoH: intermediate to low advanced

RyanDe: do you mean, switch from spanish to english on the fly?

BernardoH: you got it

RyanDe: let me think about that, I think you can...

SergioMa: I suppose if you write your own flash app, you can do anything

BernardoH: you should be able to, since moviemaker is quite simple

BernardoH: maybe with adobe?

BernardoH: there has to be some software

SergioMa: Maybe. That costs a bundle, though

RyanDe: Yes, Bernardo. Sergio is right. with flash, you can do it -- yes, very expensive

RyanDe: and not easy to learn --- at all.

BernardoH: well, i think it's a matter of only uploading the executable that switches audio

SergioMa: I doubt it is that simple

SergioMa: Anyway, if you have a reserach grant

SergioMa: You can pay someone to figure it out

RyanDe: Would they be code switching (is 'code switching the same thing as Simultaneous Interpretation?) in class... or practicing in a computer lab?

BernardoH: no

RyanDe listens

BernardoH: it's a bilingual function, two different languages meeting at the same semantic spaces

SergioMa: Your project is so advanced I would apply for a grant

RyanDe: online, or in class practice?

SergioMa: Bernardo means that as one speaks a language the interpreter translates into another like at the UN

BernardoH: right

SergioMa: Training for this is generally dono in labs

RyanDe: Thanks Sergio :)

RyanDe: labs. OK

SergioMa: One needs to clock in hundereds of hours to qualify

BernardoH: that's right

BernardoH: but there's some substance that'sapplicable to ESL learning/teaching

BernardoH: an ESL student already has one language under control

RyanDe listens

SergioMa: hopefully

BernardoH: it's a matter of building skills on those possessed

BernardoH: they don't need to go the full ten yards

RyanDe: Would you start with slow-speach videos?

BernardoH: unless they want to work in the UN

BernardoH: maybe

RyanDe: You could build that application that you are talking about with Adobe Flash. -or-hire someone to do it.

BernardoH: with some shadowing exercises

RyanDe: The videos / lessons could get progressively faster, more complicated etc

BernardoH: maybe

SergioMa: I would recommend the latter. Flash is tricky.

SergioMa: I am told.

RyanDe: It could be a set of resources that you develop or pay to have developed for use over several years. Yes?

BernardoH: that's one way to go...

RyanDe: It is, Sergio. Miles away from from plug and play.

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RyanDe: Hi Laura

SergioMa: Hi, Laura

BernardoH: hi laura

RyanDe: Are you here for the evo video chat?

LauraZu: no...i'm just searching for my class

BernardoH: it would be some sort of interactive video, user freindly

RyanDe: Well, Bernardo, sounds like you are interested in developing video-based resources for lab/class use rather than student video production. But..

SergioMa: Laura,people at the reception should be able to help you

RyanDe: Maybe they could demonstrate "simultaneous interpretation" on video?

RyanDe: Would that be possible?

SergioMa: That would be cool!

BernardoH: I'm not a programmer

LauraZu: what are you all here for?

RyanDe: We're participants of an online session... just chatting :)

BernardoH: what course are u looking for?

LauraZu: well...I didn't mean that I'm litarally searching for them (lol)....I'm searching tapped in as a requirement for the course.

SergioMa: You will not find your course here, that's for sure

SergioMa: You should go to the reception

RyanDe: Sergio, let's talk more about this platform of interculltural communication in the coming weeks. I think there is a lot of room for collaboration there.

SergioMa: Yes, I am all ears

RyanDe: Laura, what is the class that you are taking?

RyanDe: Communications?

LauraZu: special problems in instructional technology.

LauraZu: i'm a special education teacher and I'm taking courses in IT.

SergioMa: That's not here

LauraZu: thanks.

RyanDe: yeah.. that's not here. sorry. I don't know TI well enough to point you in the right direction. Maybe David or BJB in the reception area can be of more help.

BernardoH: try MTEC-AC_Grp

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SergioMa: Ryan, you were sayiing...

RyanDe: Bernardo, what about that idea of having your students translate on the fly -- on video?

RyanDe: I think I've got it. Let me type this out...

BernardoH: specify "fly"

SergioMa: Maybe on the fly would result in a great big noise on camera

SergioMa: But perhaps a little consecutive interpretation may look impressive

BernardoH: better

SergioMa: Your students xcould get personal satisfaction

SergioMa: A feeling of achievement

SergioMa: by appearing on video doiung that

BernardoH: My idea is that a student could be watching a presentation on video and be able to switch languages with a tool embeded on the video screen

RyanDe: I was thinking you could edit together a couple clips. Spanish and English, into one video. There could be different versions of this video. A/ B/ C/

BernardoH: with a link

SergioMa: I see, that is your project, but I was thinking of your students producing a video to motivate others

RyanDe: You're students could watch the video in the lab -- the part that is in Spanish, they'd translate to English, and when the video switched to English, they'd jump into Spanish.. If you recorded their translations... would that work as a decent tool for practice?

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FlorNM: Hi

RyanDe: Hi Flor :)

BernardoH: Hi flor

RyanDe: Are you here for the evo video chat?

RyanDe: any how.. Bernardo.. that might be an easier way of going about it.

FlorNM: I have not video cameras and I don't know what evo means

SergioMa: Then, you are in the wrong room

BernardoH: The students could watch the video in Spanish, then exercise a summary in English and then check the English interpretation

RyanDe: OK flor. You're welcome to hang out.

RyanDe: sounds like the beginning of several good ideas.

SergioMa: Doesn't it?

SergioMa: I love this seminar. I wish it never ended

BernardoH: your idea of several copies of the same video but with different audio might work

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RyanDe: If you got a speach online -- the same speach -- say a UN speach or the like, and you found two versions of this speach, that is, one in English and anotther in Spanish (translated) -- you could import those clips into Movie Maker and edit several versions.

RyanDe: The idea is, that instead of creating an application that allows the student to switch the audio, you edit together a video that has those audio changes hardwired.

SergioMa: For example, I read the stuff on photography Ryan recommended, went out, and took the best shots in my life (not that they are great, but there is improvement!)

BernardoH: yes the UN page is full of different language versions with the same speaker

RyanDe smiles

RyanDe: can you download them?

BernardoH: I'll try one out

BernardoH: no

SergioMa: You can do a screen capture

RyanDe: hmmm... well, we'll have to find other sources.

BernardoH: you could use close caption on cable tv

RyanDe: Sergio, could you recommend a screen capture software?

RyanDe: Sergio, very glad to hear you followed up on golden hour and color temperature.

SergioMa: I do not use one, but I can get back to you on this. There are people who do

SergioMa: Thanks, Ryan

RyanDe: Bernardo, maybe next week if I have a chance I'll see if I can find something and put together an example of what I mean.

BernardoH: are there problems with copyrights?

RyanDe: yes, most likely.

SergioMa: If you put the stuff on the web, yes

BernardoH: that's why it might be preferable to do my own translations..

RyanDe: That would work very well too.

BernardoH: that would be great Ryan

RyanDe: You could record a speach in Spanish with clean audio. Then, in editing, you could mute the videos audio track and lay down your own translation in english. Then, export that video as "Speach_2"

RyanDe: Then, you could open a new project and import both "Speach_1" and "Speach_2".

RyanDe: The video will be the same. Only the audio will be different.

BernardoH: and then follow with a comprehension quizz

RyanDe: You could have the first 20 seconds of the video be in Spanish, the cut to English, then back.. etc.

BernardoH: I was thinking it might be better to follow paragraph structure, rather than sentence structure

SergioMa: I would agree on that

BernardoH: 20 seconds is too short

RyanDe: Chaging subjects because I have to go soon.... Sergio, Kayo and I will be flying to Japan in March. Would be great to meet, but I think Nagasaki is too far to travel in the short amount of time that we'll be there...

BernardoH: 1 minute to 1 and a half

RyanDe: At least the idea is there :)

RyanDe: Hope that helps. I think you could develop it in several ways...

SergioMa: I see. I would also like to meet you. How long would you be here for?

RyanDe: Glad to help. I love brainstorming

BernardoH: well, it's been a good session

RyanDe: I'll only be there for four days. Kayo will stay for a month or two.

RyanDe: Yes it really has Bernardo!

SergioMa: An excellent one as far as I am concerned

RyanDe: Thanks so much for coming!

SergioMa: Thank you Ryan and Bernardo

BernardoH: thank you both, Ryan and Sergio

RyanDe: I too have to go soon. Thank you both Bernardo and Sergio! :)

BernardoH: So do I, have a nice weekend in SF

RyanDe: OK. Dinner calls. Let's pick this up again next Saturday. Yes?

SergioMa: I look forward to seeing you both on Yahoo Groups and on my new site! Please register. Bye

BernardoH: great

RyanDe: I will. Chow

BernardoH: I will do so

BernardoH: Chao

RyanDe waves

SergioMa: Thanks a lot. Bye!

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Room: TI_Reception

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RyanDe: Hey Jeff. Just dropped in to say hello. Our meeting went very well. Thank much for TI!

RyanDe signing off for dinner

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